John 8 vs. Exodus 3

Here we will compare the two incidents where God was allegedly on earth (as a burning Bush in [Exodus 3]) and (as a man named Jesus in [John 8]).

"Now Moses kept the flock of Jethro his father in law, the priest of Midian: and he led the flock to the backside of the desert, and came to the mountain of God, [even] to Horeb." 3:1

When did any of Jesus's followers say "we're going to the supper table of God ? or Village of God , where ever Jesus was , it was not referred to as the Location of God as Moses did in Exodus 3 .

"And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here [am] I." 3:4

Here now God is On Earth , Just like Jesus was on Earth , why then here , it says "God called him" but with Jesus , it is written "Jesus called him or the Prophet called him " ?

In Exodus , it does not say (a bush) called him , No , it says "God" called him .

It is making it perfectly clear in this very chapter while God is _On Earth_
that indeed this is God and not a bush , on the other hand Jesus never in over (Twelve Thousand Days and Nights) , made that clear , it was repeated he was a Prophet , a man , bread , whine , etc.. but never God .

While within the first few verses of Exodus , it Jumps out at you that "I AM GOD" "GOD IS SPEAKING" etc.. while God was on earth .

If God was on earth in the form of a bush and clarified *repeatedly* "I AM GOD" why then if God was on earthin the form of a Man , is it never clarified or said as it was said in Exodus 3 ?

" And he said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest [is] holy ground." 3:5

As we know ,Moses was a sheep hearder , God tells him to take off his sandals when God is on Earth . Jesus never did that , Jesus never said "where I stand is holy ground" But when God was on Earth in Exodus , God did .

" Moreover he said, I [am] the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God." 3:6

Who ? let's count the times in this One verse , (5) times in One verse it is clarified this is God . where in Jhn 8 is there such a verse ??

Yes , Jesus says I am the way , I am the light , but does he say I am God ?

"And Moses said unto God, Who [am] I, that I should go unto Pharaoh, and that I should bring forth the children of Israel out of Egypt?" 3:11

Moses said to who ? Briefly summarizing "God on Earth" "Went to God" "God says "I Am God" "Moses speaks to God"

Then you have (Exodus 3:14) where God says "Hayah" "I AM" , does God stop there or does God continue to Clarify ??

"And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this [is] my name for ever, and this [is] my memorial unto all generations. (3:15)

This time God says it even more times , (6) times in One verse compared to (Exodus 3:6) where it is said (5) times compared to [Jhn 8] where it is never said , not to mention the entire Gospel where Jesus never says I am God while on earth as God did when he was briefly on earth .

"Go, and gather the elders of Israel together, and say unto them, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob, appeared unto me, saying, I have surely visited you, and [seen] that which is done to you in Egypt:" (3:16)

Again 3 more times , God says to Moses , "Tell them God Sent you"

What does Jesus say "God sent me" coincidence ?

Was Moses God ? because God is his father , he performed Miracles , etc..

Let's now compare Jhn 8 in context ;

"It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true. I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me. 8:17-18

Jesus says *2 MEN* would make a statement true , then Jesus says he is (1) and his Creator is the Other . Therefore stating that he is a Man and his Creator is _Another_ If Jesus is God then Jesus can not say *2* witnesses as he did . This clarifies that Jesus and God are not one person .

"Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am [he], and [that] I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things." 8:28

When God was on earth in the form of a bush , did God call himself the son of a Fig tree ? (AstoghforAllah) Did God say while on earth manifesting Himself as a Bush "I do nothing myself but my father has taught me or sent me , etc .. ?

From Exodus 3 where God says "Hayah" , we see the extreme difference from where Jesus in Jhn 8 says "ego eimi" .

"And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him." 8:29

Please who ? If Jesus is God then who is he pleasing ?

"Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 8:42

This is one of the Clearest verses that Jesus is not God because Jesus says he did _not_ send himself , he was sent .

Jesus says "neither came I of myself" That is Plainly saying "I am not God"

It is obviously two different entities , not only form the very words of Jesus but also from the style and language of expression .

When God was on Earth , God's style of Expression was bluntly different then when Jesus was on earth .

Then the chapter ends with ;

"Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by." 8:59

God does not run for his life , God is not scared , God makes it clear "I am God" When God was on the Mountain in Exodus 3 , people were scared to go to the Mountain , but here Jesus is scared of little stones .

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